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Comment on Introducing the Category Change Workgroup!

an0n (Guest) Mon 29 Oct 2012 08:51AM UTC

I disagree with the obligatory box fox crossovers. I think the archive code should be smart enough to recognise that if you list Fandom A *and* Fandom B in the fandom field the fic is a crossover. What we need is a better way to exclude fandoms from search results, so when searching, you can filter to fics only tagged Fandom A and no other fandom tag. A tickybox will only help with the crossover issue (and maybe not that much because who is going to go back and ticky box all the crossovers already uploaded?) whereas a function NOT filter will help with excluding all kinds tags any given reader isn't interested in.

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1. cordial Mon 29 Oct 2012 10:44AM UTC
  
  I'd grandfather the old fic-- at the very least it'd help with searching for new fic going forward. The archive can't recognize crossovers automatically because of the weird ways in which fandoms can be related (ex, some people consider Doctor Who and Torchwood separate fandoms, some don't; ASOIAF can be the same fandom as Game of Thrones but not necessarily; the manga version isn't necessarily the anime version; someone who tags their fic with five different fairy tales may not consider them different fandoms; someone may tag their fic with a cameo appearance, etc.)
  The NOT filter is definitely more important to me than marking crossovers and fusions, though. :D
  
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2. Firerose Mon 29 Oct 2012 10:45PM UTC
  
  Many authors post several short works (eg drabbles) as chapters of a single work, often with multiple fandoms, but not necessarily crossed over.
  
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3. ErinPtah Tue 30 Oct 2012 07:04PM UTC
  
  The trouble is that there are lots of cases where users will add multiple tags in the Fandom field on a non-crossover fic. For example:
  --a non-version-specific Sailor Moon fic, tagged with both Sailor Moon (anime) and Sailor Moon (manga), because they think it needs both tags to be found.
  --a Star Wars fic tagged with the specific name of one of the movies as well as a more generic Star Wars tag.
  --any of the many, many fics across multiple series with a pairing tag placed in the Fandom field, often alongside the actual name of the fandom.
  
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4. 1. samjohnsson Tue 30 Oct 2012 07:23PM UTC
    
    To amplify that last bullet, especially in some RPF'dom, the pairing tag is actually the expected "fandom" - our imposition of "American Actor RPF" or "Historical RPF" or w/e is unusual. I'm not surprised to have it show up in other fandom trends.
    
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  2. 1. ErinPtah Tue 30 Oct 2012 08:13PM UTC
      
      True, and yet another complication! We wouldn't want something tagged with both "Tommy Joe Ratliff - Fandom" and "Adam Lambert/Tommy Joe Ratliff - Fandom" showing up as a crossover.
      The tags I linked were meant to illustrate when fics are actively mistagged. They all specifically included the word "pairing", implying that the user didn't intend them as fandoms.
      
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